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Episode 2.2 - Page 37

posted 22nd Jan 2017, 9:51 AM

Episode 2.2 - Page 37
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22nd Jan 2017, 9:51 AM

mars

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Drive the nail, Jay. Drive it deep.

The Major's judgey, preachy, scolding personality is on full throttle : will Kate's indifference hold out? Or is Jay getting at something, here?

Thanks for tuning in :D

Oh also, a couple of people have asked if there is a digital copy available for the for sale copy of Episode 2 on Indy Planet. There is, you just have to adjust the drop down menu. So if you want that, have at 'er!

Anyways thanks for tuning in :D
~M

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22nd Jan 2017, 12:19 PM

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Maybe Kine-Tech getting their asses handed to them wasn't such a bad thing to KATE.

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24th Jan 2017, 5:06 PM

mars

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Starting to become obvious that Kate's plans for people aren't always very easy going on the people involved...

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22nd Jan 2017, 3:18 PM

thing 1

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all part of the plan!

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24th Jan 2017, 5:04 PM

mars

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She IS a long term thinker, after all ;)

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22nd Jan 2017, 4:22 PM

man in black

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She's not liking that

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24th Jan 2017, 5:04 PM

mars

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The more intelligent machines get, the more vulnerable they become to guilt and scolding! Now we know their weakness...!

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23rd Jan 2017, 2:58 AM

Shan

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Will you two hurry up and kiss already?

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24th Jan 2017, 5:03 PM

mars

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I know, right? The tension's even getting to me, at this point.

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23rd Jan 2017, 8:33 AM

sigpig

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Time for post-combat sex (speaking of driving nails deep)...

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24th Jan 2017, 5:02 PM

mars

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The silver lining of the brutalities of war is the post-war sex.

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23rd Jan 2017, 3:11 PM

Thracecius

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Ooh, that's gotta sting a bit, don't it, KATE? Letting the old-as-dirt trooper from a bygone era school you like that isn't going to be good for your reputation, so you better keep this conversation under wraps. ;)

Philosophically speaking though, it's an interesting match-up. On one side you have the AI (she sure looks "physical" to me) with vast computing power and likely archives of all human history at her disposal to reference every time she makes a decision, which you'd think would make her logic irrefutable. On the other side you have a cryo-solider, a man who's longevity is measured in months or years over the span of centuries, but who's training, experience and personality give him a far greater perspective than most humans. One could argue that KATE's logic is flawless simply because the "math" works out favorably to meet the objective, despite the collateral damage, but the cold calculation doesn't measure up to the moral code that Jay adheres to, which puts human life above simple statistics.

Personally, I think he's right, and I would imagine most other people, particularly those who have seen combat or witnessed similar situations firsthand, would agree. The only question remains then is simple: how can an AI see his point of view, or be convinced of it, without an innate understanding of that moral code?

Drive it home, Mars, you're doing great!

P.S. An edit for you, the spelling for the term you are using is "sowing", as in sowing seeds for crops, as opposed to "sewing", which means stitching together. :)

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24th Jan 2017, 5:01 PM

mars

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DAMMIT I HATE SPELLING
Argh i'll fix it when I get a chance, haha thanks for the notice!


And also hells yeah, you nail everything in your post. Coudn't say it better myself ;)
A lot of people inherently believe in the 'greater good' but often, I think, don't properly weigh humanity into their equations. Something to think about, and hard to say who is right and wrong (or that anyone necessarily is)

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27th Jan 2017, 3:27 PM

Thracecius

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You do normally do a good job on spelling and grammar, but since you made a point of mentioning corrections a few pages back I figured it was worth mentioning, just in case you missed it. ;)

Also, I'm glad, but not surprised, that we agree on the conversation unfolding on this page. The way that you've written Jay up to this point epitomizes the "philosopher soldier" arch-type that resonates with me, and no doubt with a lot of people. The human equation is a tricky one to deal with in everyday life, let alone write convincingly, and it's always enjoyable to see someone do it justice. Thanks for sharing with us!

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